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The American Contractor Show

Profit & Storm Chasing – Paul Reed & Mike Lyndhurst

πŸ“… September 22, 2020 ⏱️ 25:29 🎀 John Dye, Paul Reed, Mike Lyndhurst

Chapters

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  • 0:00
    Intro from Cedar Rapids after the derecho
  • 1:08
    Staying low-key & pre-planning storm markets
  • 3:16
    Saying no & narrowing to a pinhole
  • 4:20
    Profit centers plus non-profit give-back
  • 4:53
    Talking real margins & knowing your numbers
  • 6:28
    Running a $20M company on cash books
  • 8:02
    The accrual switch & true 14% overhead
  • 9:40
    The 48% margin myth & real market margins
  • 11:18
    Markup vs. margin explained
  • 12:20
    When to hire a fractional CFO
  • 14:32
    Fast growth, razor margins & the dumb tax
  • 16:41
    Coming out of storm-chasing retirement to give back
  • 21:05
    Greatest strength is greatest weakness & 'bodies in the road'
  • 23:15
    Learn from mentors, lead with humility & wrap-up

Speakers

J
John Dye
Host, The American Contractor Show
P
Paul Reed
Owner, Northwest Roofing
M
Mike Lyndhurst
Public Adjuster

Key Takeaways

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Plan your storm markets in advance β€” map the areas you'd actually work, pre-check pricing and local claim laws, so you don't drive to a market paying $184/square and get stuck.

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Learning to say no to the wrong subset of business is one of the hardest but most valuable skills; narrow your focus from a wide net to a 'pinhole' of the work you truly want.

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Balance for-profit centers with non-profit/give-back initiatives β€” driving a better marketplace for consumers is a win even when there's no immediate business.

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Know your true overhead: Paul's firm discovered their real office overhead was 14 percent, not the 10 percent 'standard' everyone repeats β€” meaning they were quietly losing 4 percent off the top.

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Understand markup vs. margin β€” they are not the same; a 25-30 percent margin is a much larger markup, and confusing them can wreck your bids.

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Realistic insurance-job margins vary by market: around 30 percent in Iowa, 25-26 percent in Denver/Colorado Springs, and just 12-15 percent on competitive commercial cash bids against corporations.

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Switch from cash books to accrual accounting to see the full restoration cash-flow cycle (ACV, supplements, depreciation, material bills) and hire a fractional CFO earlier than you think β€” ideally around $5M, not waiting until $20M.

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High volume without margin is a trap (e.g., State Farm PSP-style programs); growing too fast and over-committing hurts your whole team and community β€” slow down, plan, and learn from mentors who've done it.

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