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#731: Risks of CO, Proper Painting Sequence, and Detailing Felt WRBs

⏱️ 48:32 🎀 Patrick McCombe, Ian Schwandt, Cari Delahanty, Randy Williams
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#731: Risks of CO, Proper Painting Sequence, and Detailing Felt WRBs
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  • 2:52
    Welcome and Introductions
    The host, Patrick, introduces co-hosts Randy Williams, Ian Schwandt, and producer Carrie Dete, and invites listeners to submit questions.
  • 2:58
    Hot Water Shortage Solutions
    Ian discusses a client's problem of running out of hot water due to a 60-gallon stone tub and a 65-gallon hybrid water heater, exploring potential solutions like adding a second tank or switching to a tankless gas heater.
  • 15:19
    Energy Assessment Surprise
    Randy recounts an energy audit where a client's high electric bill was largely attributed to continuously running heated outdoor mats, rather than their hot tub, emphasizing the hidden energy drains.
  • 42:11
    CO Poisoning Dangers
    A listener shares a harrowing personal story about severe carbon monoxide poisoning from an improperly vented dryer, leading to long-term health issues, and Randy discusses the risks of ventless propane heaters.
  • 51:30
    Complex HVAC Coordination
    Another listener, Jim, provides a detailed account of common issues arising from poor coordination between forced air and radiant heating system installers, stressing the importance of comprehensive planning and clear labeling.
  • 1:11:17
    Painting Sequence Debate
    The hosts discuss the optimal sequence for installing trim and painting, considering factors like paint sheen, trim color, and the need for touch-ups, with differing professional opinions on pre-finishing.
  • 1:30:06
    Felt WRB Detailing
    Andrew and Mike Gurton weigh in on the use of asphalt felt as a WRB, discussing its performance, installation nuances, vapor permeability, and specific ASTM types, contrasting it with modern house wraps.

Speakers

P
Patrick McCombe
Host β€” senior editor
I
Ian Schwandt
Host β€” contributing editor and production manager for TDs custom construction
C
Cari Delahanty
Host β€” producer
R
Randy Williams
Host β€” green building advisor, editor

Key Takeaways

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When selecting a hot water heater, especially for new installations or additions like large tubs, carefully calculate the 'first hour rating' and recovery rate to ensure it meets anticipated demand.

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For hybrid or heat pump water heaters, consider potential solutions like adding an auxiliary holding tank or increasing the water temperature setting to improve hot water availability, but be aware of increased energy costs.

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Always investigate all potential energy drains during an energy assessment; seemingly small appliances like heated mats can significantly impact utility bills if left running continuously without controls.

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Install low-level carbon monoxide detectors, especially near combustion appliances, and be cautious of ventless heaters, as they exhaust combustion byproducts directly into the living space, posing health risks and moisture issues.

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For complex HVAC systems, especially those combining forced air and radiant heat, ensure thorough coordination between trades and insist on detailed plans and clear labeling of all components to prevent control issues and simplify future troubleshooting.

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When painting and installing trim, consider pre-painting trim in a shop, especially if colors differ from walls, and plan the sequence (e.g., initial wall coat, trim install, final trim and wall coats) to minimize touch-ups and splatters.

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For WRB installations, particularly with felt paper, use the correct ASTM type (e.g., D226 Type 1 for siding, not roofing underlayment), ensure proper horizontal overlap (4 inches), and acclimate rolls to prevent buckling, especially when installing directly behind siding without a rainscreen.

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