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Business Is Hard Until You Do This

πŸ“… December 12, 2025 ⏱️ 1:19:10 🎀 Jered Williams, Eddie Barkhurst

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  • 0:00
    Plumbline Sponsor Intro
    Jared introduces the episode's sponsor, Plumbline, a 24-hour answering service that charges per booked call and offers free chat monitoring.
  • 1:51
    Price Book Philosophy
    Jared and Eddie discuss their evolving philosophy for creating a price book, moving from simple to more complex to cover diverse real-world scenarios.
  • 5:08
    Business is Hard: Stop Being the Business
    Jared explains that business becomes easier once the owner stops being the sole operator and begins to delegate, hire, and implement systems.
  • 7:30
    Make Work Predictable
    The discussion emphasizes standardizing processes and making work predictable to enable scaling and efficient training, from marketing to customer interactions.
  • 17:36
    Accountability and Standards
    Jared and Eddie delve into the importance of setting clear standards and holding employees accountable, even when faced with high-performing but non-compliant technicians.
  • 25:46
    Systemize Hiring
    The hosts discuss the necessity of a systematic hiring process that focuses on finding the 'right person in the right seat' and training them according to company values.
  • 34:09
    Fix the Profit Engines
    Jared and Eddie highlight that a non-profitable business is inherently hard and stress the importance of understanding pricing, profit margins, and avoiding inefficiencies.
  • 42:57
    Apprenticeship Program
    They explore the idea of an apprenticeship program to train new plumbers in their company's specific methods, rather than dealing with the 'baggage' of experienced hires.

Speakers

J
Jered Williams
Host
E
Eddie Barkhurst

Key Takeaways

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Implement a robust answering service like Plumbline to ensure no calls are missed and all opportunities are captured, especially if investing in marketing.

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Streamline lead acquisition to only online booking and phone calls, eliminating low-intent form fills to improve efficiency and reduce wasted effort on customer service.

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Standardize all processes, from marketing messages to installation methods, to ensure consistent quality and easier training for new hires, which is crucial for scalability.

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Clearly define and communicate company standards (e.g., specific piping materials like PEX over copper for water heaters) to all technicians and hold them accountable, even if it means difficult conversations with high performers.

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Develop a systematic hiring process that prioritizes character over skills, focusing on individuals who align with company values and have the capacity and desire for the role.

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Ensure your business is profitable by accurately pricing services, considering all costs, and maintaining healthy margins, as a non-profitable business creates immense stress and limits customer and employee care.

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