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Level10 Contractor Daily

Episode 1965 – Lowering Lead Costs in the New Post TCPA Era (Get The Referral)

πŸ“… January 24, 2025 ⏱️ 39:02 🎀 Rich, Jamie Vacek

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  • 0:00
    Intro and the changing lead landscape
  • 1:41
    TCPA, AI search and rising lead costs
  • 5:00
    Going old school: referrals as the answer
  • 6:39
    Why enterprises are weak at referrals
  • 9:26
    How the branded app and CRM integration work
  • 13:16
    The customer project-tracking portal
  • 16:33
    Company Cam integration and touchpoints
  • 18:43
    What's in it for the sales rep
  • 20:54
    Building your own advocate network and pay
  • 24:46
    Pay-for-performance and controlling marketing cost
  • 26:58
    Real results and the marketing-company mindset
  • 29:05
    GTR Light automation and aggregator partnerships
  • 34:03
    Pricing and how to reach GTR

Speakers

R
Rich
Host, Level10 Contractor Daily
J
Jamie Vacek
Founder, Get The Referral (GTR)

Key Takeaways

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New TCPA rules require consent and cap how many times an aggregator can resell a lead (three vs the real 8-10), so aggregator lead prices must rise; contractors are responding by going 'old school' with canvassing and referrals.

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Referrals are only about 3-5% of revenue at most big companies and it's all organic; GTR typically doubles that quickly (e.g. 5% to 10%), and referred customers are 4x more likely to buy, close at 50-70%, and are less price-sensitive.

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GTR builds a custom-branded app that lives on the customer's phone as a project-tracking portal (CRM-integrated across 100+ CRMs, plus a Company Cam integration for tagged photos) so many contractors adopt it just for the portal.

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91% of happy customers say they'd give a referral but only 11% of salespeople ever ask; each rep gets a QR code that locks a homeowner to them so referrals months later are still credited, killing inter-office disputes.

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Reps can build their own advocate networks (past customers, real estate agents, influencers); companies pay 10% or a flat ~$500 self-gen bonus, meaning a rep can effectively earn ~20% on a deal without the headache of owning a company.

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A cost-per-sit runs $400-600; GTR's new pay-for-performance model (per referral or per sold job, for 100+ rep enterprises) can pull all-in marketing cost from ~20% down to 5-7% with no per-seat risk.

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Pricing tiers: referral-only from $400/mo for 5 reps (+$20/seat), ~$700 with project tracking, $900 for 15 reps, $2,100 premium for 50 reps; 'GTR Light' (automated, rep-optional) launches mid-year for painters, landscapers and mom-and-pops.

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