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Fence & Deck Mastery

Cascade Fence & Deck’s strategy for $12M-$13M Annual Revenue | F&D Mastery Podcast #25

πŸ“… March 19, 2024 ⏱️ 46:07 🎀 Lou Lipka, Alex Tainer

Chapters

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  • 0:00
    Intro & meet Lou Lipka
  • 1:37
    Cascade's story: 1997 to $12M
  • 3:16
    Cutting builders, going all-in on homeowners
  • 5:28
    When & why to open new locations
  • 8:13
    Repairs as a foot-in-the-door
  • 13:14
    Virtual (Zoom) appointments
  • 15:56
    Offline marketing: billboards & neighborhood campaigns
  • 20:26
    Lead-buying & Local Services Ads
  • 23:47
    SEO & 'They Ask, You Answer'
  • 31:31
    Driving reviews with crew incentives
  • 37:07
    Growth through people & culture
  • 40:56
    Final advice: double down on your people

Speakers

L
Lou Lipka
General Manager, Cascade Fence & Deck
A
Alex Tainer
Founder, Fence and Deck Marketers

Key Takeaways

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Cascade grew from a $2-3M plateau to about $12M by cutting builder/new-construction work entirely in 2015 and doubling down exclusively on homeowners doing tear-out-and-replace fences and deck remodels.

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The company's real 'why' is building a business everyone wants to work for, so it triples down on hiring good people, sharing the vision transparently, and caring for them personally, which drives both growth and healthy turnover.

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They turned COVID-era necessity into a competitive edge with virtual Zoom appointments: they screen the lead, have the customer walk their own backyard on video while the estimator gives a near-final ballpark price, filtering out tire-kickers and running far more appointments a week.

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Repairs are used strategically as a low-cost, high-turnover foot in the door: two full-time repair techs generate 8-10 new customers a week who can become raving fans and future replacement jobs.

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Reviews skyrocket by incentivizing crews with free lunch when a customer leaves four reviews, planting the 'five-star experience' bug on site up front, and running review-count competitions with surprise gifts.

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Local Services Ads crush it for fences thanks to a fence-specific category with the ability to dispute repair leads, but underperform for decks, which get lumped under General Contractor and patio with no way to dispute bad leads.

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Content follows the 'They Ask, You Answer' model, starting with a video that answers a real customer question and then converting it into a blog, and total marketing spend stays under 1% of revenue because growth is largely organic through reputation and referrals.

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