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Can't Stop the Growth Growth

Turning Data into Revenue with Neal Zamore

πŸ“… October 9, 2025 ⏱️ 24:35 🎀 Chad Peterman, Katie Donovan, Neil Zamore

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  • 0:00
    Introduction to the Show
    Chad Peterman introduces the 'Can't Stop the Growth' podcast and the 'Around the Campfire' series with Katie Donovan of Camp Digital.
  • 1:50
    Neil Zamore's Background
    Neil Zamore shares his background, from consumer marketing to pioneering private equity in home services, starting in 2017.
  • 5:32
    Challenges in Home Services
    Zamore discusses the complexities of marketing in HVAC, highlighting the many moving parts beyond just lead generation.
  • 8:09
    Key Performance Indicators (KPIs)
    He details his primary KPIs: cost per lead and cost of advertising, explaining how to track them using tools like Service Titan.
  • 15:57
    Adapting KPIs to Trades
    Zamore explains that KPI tolerance levels vary by trade and season, and how to balance keeping technicians busy with lead costs.
  • 20:46
    Leadership Style
    He describes his leadership style as 'freedom with fences,' empowering employees while setting clear conditions for success.
  • 25:09
    Scaling a Home Service Business
    Zamore advises entrepreneurs to focus on understanding their numbers beyond just revenue and to not overlook grassroots marketing tactics.
  • 33:17
    Lightning Round Insights
    A quick Q&A covers Zamore's morning routine, essential business tools, greatest strength, dream lunch guest, and alternative career as a stand-up comic.
  • 37:57
    Advice for New Entrepreneurs
    Zamore emphasizes the importance of clearly articulating your offer to customers, highlighting what threats it avoids or obligations it fulfills.

Speakers

C
Chad Peterman
Host
K
Katie Donovan
Host β€” CEO of Camp Digital
N
Neil Zamore
Head of Marketing at The Store Group

Key Takeaways

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Focus on cost per lead and cost of advertising as primary KPIs, but understand that they are part of a larger organizational funnel.

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Utilize your existing software, like Service Titan, to track metrics and create a 'cradle to grave funnel' report to identify problem areas quickly.

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Adjust your tolerance for cost per lead based on the season and trade; sometimes exceeding it is necessary to keep technicians busy.

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Don't solely rely on digital marketing; grassroots efforts like referrals, door hangers, and vehicle stickers are still highly effective.

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Train your technicians to consistently implement simple, low-cost marketing actions like placing stickers or lawn signs, as they can generate significant, high-value leads.

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Empower your team with 'freedom with fences' by setting clear conditions of satisfaction while allowing creativity in how they achieve goals.

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Before scaling, ensure you deeply understand your business's financials beyond just revenue, focusing on profitability and what truly impacts your bottom line.

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