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Can't Stop the Growth Growth

Turning Data into Revenue with Neal Zamore

πŸ“… October 9, 2025 ⏱️ 24:34 🎀 Chad Peterman, Katie Donovan, Neal Zamore

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  • 1:50
    Neal's Entry into Home Services
    Neal Zamore shares his unconventional path into home services marketing, starting in 2017 with a private equity-backed HVAC company.
  • 5:31
    Biggest Challenge in Home Services
    Neal discusses the complexity of home services, highlighting the numerous moving pieces beyond just lead generation, such as staffing and technician performance.
  • 8:22
    Key Marketing KPIs
    Neal outlines his primary KPIs: Cost Per Lead (CPL) and Cost of Advertising (CoA), explaining how he tracks and uses them to monitor business health.
  • 12:27
    Measuring KPIs for Small Businesses
    Neal offers practical advice on how smaller home service businesses can measure CPL and CoA using tools like ServiceTitan and careful calculation of advertising costs.
  • 15:59
    Tolerance Levels for KPIs
    Neal explains how CPL and CoA tolerance levels vary by trade and season, and when it might be acceptable to exceed them to keep technicians busy.
  • 20:46
    Neal's Leadership Style
    Neal describes his leadership philosophy as 'freedom with fences,' empowering his team with clear expectations and fostering a positive work environment.
  • 25:09
    Scaling a Home Service Business
    Neal advises entrepreneurs to deeply understand their numbers beyond just revenue, focusing on profitability and effective utilization of both traditional and digital marketing.
  • 37:21
    Advice for New Entrepreneurs
    Neal stresses the importance of clearly articulating one's offer to customers, quickly revealing what problems the service solves or obligations it fulfills.

Speakers

C
Chad Peterman
Host β€” Host of Can't Stop the Growth podcast
K
Katie Donovan
Host β€” CEO of Camp Digital
N
Neal Zamore
Head of Marketing at The Stor Group

Key Takeaways

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Prioritize tracking Cost Per Lead (CPL) and Cost of Advertising (CoA) to understand the efficiency of your marketing efforts and the overall profitability of your leads.

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Leverage your CRM, like ServiceTitan, to extract essential metrics; specifically, use the 'income' field in invoice data for accurate revenue reporting, avoiding 'total' which includes non-revenue items.

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Adjust your tolerance levels for CPL based on the trade and time of year; it can be strategic to accept a higher CPL during downtimes to maintain technician utilization and prevent staff turnover.

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Do not underestimate the power of traditional, grassroots marketing methods like vehicle stickers, lawn signs, and referrals; they remain highly effective despite the rise of digital marketing.

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Clearly articulate your offer to potential customers, focusing on what threats your service helps them avoid or what obligations it helps them fulfill, to quickly capture attention and drive sales.

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Implement a 'cradle-to-grave' funnel analysis, from advertising spend to technician turnover and average revenue per ticket, to quickly identify bottlenecks and allocate resources efficiently.

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