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Pool Service Pricing 2025 Part 2

πŸ“… November 22, 2025 ⏱️ 1:20:44 🎀 Ed De Jesus, John JJ Flawless, Zach the pool boy Nicholas

Chapters

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  • 0:43
    Cost Per Pool Foundation
    The hosts introduce the core topic of determining the true cost per pool, emphasizing its importance for profitability and sustainability.
  • 4:26
    Cost Per Pool vs. Stop
    This chapter distinguishes between calculating cost per pool (customer count) and cost per stop (service visits) for a more granular financial understanding.
  • 7:28
    Winter Season Cost Misconceptions
    The hosts warn against using winter months as a baseline for cost calculations, as expenses typically decrease during this period.
  • 7:52
    Labor Burden Explained
    This section breaks down the full cost of labor, including payroll taxes, workers' compensation, sick days, and training, beyond just the hourly wage.
  • 8:26
    Chemical Expense Nuances
    The discussion covers how to accurately account for chemical costs, including bulk purchases, rather than just per-pool usage.
  • 8:59
    The Impact of Drive Time
    The hosts explain how drive time significantly adds to labor costs and emphasizes the importance of route density for profitability.
  • 9:39
    Trucks & Maintenance Costs
    This chapter details the often-hidden costs associated with vehicle maintenance, repairs, and the impact of vehicle breakdowns on productivity.
  • 10:12
    Rising Insurance Costs
    The discussion focuses on the substantial and ever-increasing costs of various types of insurance for pool businesses and their impact on pricing.
  • 11:08
    Office & Overhead Expenses
    This section covers the wide array of office-related costs, from rent and utilities to software and supplies, that contribute to the overall cost of doing business.
  • 12:59
    Future Pricing & Profitability
    The episode concludes by previewing future discussions on profit margins, structuring rates for 2026, and identifying non-billable hours.

Speakers

E
Ed De Jesus
Host
J
John JJ Flawless
Host
Z
Zach the pool boy Nicholas
Host

Key Takeaways

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Calculate your 'cost per pool' (total expenses / total customers) to understand the average cost of servicing one account, providing a high-level overview of your business health.

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Determine your 'cost per stop' (total expenses / total service visits) to identify individual pools or tasks that are less profitable, revealing specific areas for improvement.

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Factor in the full burden of labor, which can be 25-30% higher than the hourly wage due to payroll taxes, workers' compensation, sick days, and training time.

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Accurately track chemical expenses by accounting for all purchases (even bulk buys) in the month they are incurred, rather than just per-pool usage, to avoid underestimating costs.

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Optimize route density to minimize non-billable drive time; even short drive times add up significantly in labor costs and reduce overall profitability.

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Account for all vehicle-related expenses, including maintenance, repairs, tires, and fuel, as these contribute substantially to operating costs and impact profitability.

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Regularly review and re-bid insurance policies (auto, liability, workers' comp) every six to twelve months to mitigate rapidly rising premiums, which can significantly impact your bottom line.

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