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Owned and Operated Growth

Cost Per Lead Is A Trap (Here’s The Real Numbers)

πŸ“… July 16, 2026 ⏱️ 39:05 🎀 John Wilson, Jack Carr

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  • 0:00
    Cost Per Lead Trap
    The hosts introduce the common misconception of focusing solely on cost per lead in marketing.
  • 0:35
    Company Growth Update
    John and Jack share impressive revenue growth figures for their home service businesses, highlighting recent monthly successes.
  • 6:30
    Big Reputation Ad
    An advertisement for 'Big Reputation' explains how it helps home service companies optimize their Google Business Profile for leads.
  • 25:29
    Marketing ROI Explained
    The discussion shifts to defining and measuring true marketing ROI beyond just cost per lead, focusing on revenue generated per channel.
  • 35:01
    Tracking Campaigns & Attribution
    The hosts delve into practical methods for tracking specific marketing campaigns and the complexities of customer attribution using unique phone numbers and CRMs.
  • 44:24
    Service Scalers Ad
    An advertisement for 'ServiceScalers' highlights their focus on driving high-quality calls and booked jobs for home service businesses.
  • 45:28
    Blended vs. Individual ROI
    John and Jack discuss the importance of understanding both blended marketing ROI and individualized channel ROI, contrasting different business models.
  • 50:09
    CAC to LTV Misconceptions
    The hosts challenge the applicability of 'Customer Acquisition Cost to Lifetime Value' (CAC to LTV) in the home service industry, arguing it can be misleading.
  • 57:12
    Building a Marketing Scorecard
    The episode concludes with advice on creating a comprehensive marketing scorecard to track key metrics and hold marketing efforts accountable.

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John Wilson
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Jack Carr
Host

Key Takeaways

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Prioritize revenue-driven metrics over cost-per-lead: Focus on the number of sales and total dollar amount generated from each marketing channel to assess true ROI, aiming for a minimum 5x return.

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Implement robust attribution tracking: Use individualized phone numbers for each marketing campaign (mailers, digital ads, etc.) to accurately determine which efforts are generating leads and revenue.

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Separate revenue by new vs. existing customers: Track how much of your daily revenue comes from new customers (marketed) versus recurring customers to understand the impact of your acquisition efforts.

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Develop a comprehensive marketing scorecard: Track key metrics like number of calls, appointments booked, call booking rate, and revenue by channel, even if starting with basic data points.

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Understand blended vs. channel ROI: While individual channel ROI is important, also calculate your total blended marketing ROI across the entire business to account for all marketing-related costs.

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Be cautious with CAC to LTV: Do not over-rely on Customer Acquisition Cost to Lifetime Value metrics in home service, as customer churn can be unpredictable and re-acquisition is common; prioritize near-term payback on spend.

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