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469: Why Roofers Stay Busy but Still Go Broke: Markup & Profit with Michael Stone

⏱️ 36:52 🎀 Dave Sullivan, Michael Stone
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469: Why Roofers Stay Busy but Still Go Broke: Markup & Profit with Michael Stone
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  • 0:00
    Introduction & Michael Stone's Book
    Dave Sullivan introduces Michael Stone, author of 'Markup and Profit', who explains the motivation behind his legendary book.
  • 1:56
    The Origin of Markup and Profit
    Michael Stone recounts how his college paper evolved into 'Markup and Profit', a book focused on helping contractors achieve profitability.
  • 4:47
    Timeless Business Principles
    Stone asserts that fundamental business principles for contractors haven't changed in decades, unlike construction materials, and ignoring them leads to high failure rates.
  • 7:26
    Understanding Job Costing & Overhead
    Michael explains the necessity of accurate job costing and understanding overhead expenses to determine a true, profitable markup.
  • 13:29
    Calculating Sales Price
    Stone and Sullivan discuss simple methods for calculating the sales price using job costs and desired gross profit to ensure profitability.
  • 22:12
    Targeting the Right Customers
    The hosts emphasize the importance of marketing to customers who value quality over low price, rather than just competing on cost.
  • 29:39
    Cash Flow and Payment Schedules
    Michael Stone highlights the importance of effective payment schedules and avoiding invoices to maintain healthy cash flow and prevent business failure.
  • 34:48
    Profit vs. Revenue & Legacy
    The discussion shifts to focusing on profit over just revenue and how current financial practices impact a contractor's ability to sell their business later.
  • 44:46
    Finding Michael Stone's Resources
    Michael Stone provides information on how to access his website, newsletters, and resources for contractors looking to improve their business.

Speakers

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Dave Sullivan
Host β€” the Roofer Coach
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Michael Stone
author of Markup and Profit

Key Takeaways

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Always perform accurate job costing for every project to understand the true expenses before pricing.

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Calculate your total overhead expenses and incorporate them into your pricing strategy, ensuring they are covered by your markup.

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Use a consistent markup formula (e.g., Job Costs x Markup = Sales Price) rather than guessing or charging by arbitrary industry standards.

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Focus on marketing to customers who value quality and reliability, rather than those solely seeking the lowest price, to avoid commoditization.

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Implement clear, short payment schedules in contracts (down payment, progress payments, final payment within 3 days) to maintain healthy cash flow and avoid lengthy receivables.

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Prioritize profitability over simply increasing revenue; being busy without profit leads to financial struggle and eventual business failure.

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Be cautious of financial advice that suggests reducing declared profit for tax purposes if you plan to sell your business, as consistent, declared profitability is crucial for valuation.

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