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What’s Up With All The Bad Leads (& How to Fix It) | Chris Behan & Natalie Russo

⏱️ 48:05 🎤 Chris Behan, Brian Kaskavalciyan, Natalie Russo
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What’s Up With All The Bad Leads (& How to Fix It) | Chris Behan & Natalie Russo
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  • 0:00
    Evolving Lead Quality
    Chris introduces how Google's algorithms have evolved to allow better optimization for lead quality compared to a decade ago.
  • 1:45
    Importance of Call Centers
    The hosts discuss the critical role of a well-structured call center, regardless of size, for appointment setting and follow-up.
  • 8:44
    Speed to Lead is Critical
    Chris emphasizes that immediate contact with a lead, ideally within seconds, drastically increases the chance of conversion.
  • 18:29
    Shift to Data-Driven Marketing
    Natalie explains the shift from focusing solely on raw cost per lead to optimizing for a business's overall profitability using advanced data and smart bidding.
  • 28:18
    Google's Learning Algorithm
    Chris details how Truevolve integrates CRM data and website actions back into Google Ads, allowing the algorithm to learn and optimize for sales, not just clicks.
  • 44:46
    Paid Media Explained
    Natalie breaks down the effectiveness of Google PPC and social media, differentiating between high-intent and low-intent lead sources.
  • 49:43
    Marketing Funnel & Campaigns
    Natalie uses the analogy of an upside-down triangle to explain the marketing funnel and how campaign structures should align with business goals for higher quality leads.
  • 1:05:36
    Combatting Bad Leads
    Natalie highlights using tools like CallRail's conversation intelligence to filter out unqualified calls and optimize campaigns only for truly qualified leads.
  • 1:21:43
    TrueSpeed & Website Latency
    Chris introduces TrueSpeed, their proprietary content management system designed to eliminate website latency and improve conversion rates through single-click models.
  • 1:26:56
    Industry Trends & Mindset
    Chris and Natalie discuss current market trends, the importance of efficiency over spending more, and how a proactive owner mindset is crucial for leveraging new technologies.

Speakers

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Chris Behan
Truevolve
B
Brian Kaskavalciyan
Host
N
Natalie Russo
Truevolve

Key Takeaways

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Prioritize speed-to-lead: Contacting leads within seconds of their inquiry significantly boosts appointment setting success, especially with lead aggregators.

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Invest in a sophisticated call center: Even small companies need structured systems, scripting, and consistent follow-up for lead conversion.

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Shift focus from CPL to marketing costs: Optimize for overall marketing cost as a percentage of revenue (aim for 10% or less) rather than just raw cost per lead, as cheap leads can still be low quality.

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Leverage data to 'feed Google': Integrate CRM data (sets, issues, sales) and website engagement (page visits, downloads) back into Google Ads to allow its learning algorithm to optimize for high-quality, profitable leads.

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Understand the marketing funnel: Differentiate between high-intent (Google PPC) and lower-intent (social media) lead sources and tailor campaigns accordingly, ensuring campaign structures align with business goals.

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Utilize advanced tracking tools: Implement conversation intelligence tools like CallRail to filter out unqualified calls and optimize campaigns only for genuinely interested prospects, improving lead quality.

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Improve website speed: Optimize your website for sub-second loading times and implement a single-click conversion model to reduce abandonment and boost conversion rates.

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